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Jul 6, 2022

Beth Anstandig is a Licensed Psychotherapist, Author of The Human Herd, and Owner of The Circle Up Experience. Together with an ever-changing ménagère of animals, Beth works with human herds on-site and online. She’s trained thousands of leaders and teams from some of the most renowned corporations, universities, and nonprofits. Beth’s fresh perspective and work integrating basic animal practices into everyday human life have been featured in global media, including BBC World Service, PBS, and Forbes. She is a frequent podcast guest, contributing writer for MomsRising, and advisor and content creator for Kahilla: A Basecamp for Women on the Rise. Beth holds a BA in English Language and Literature and an MFA in Creative Writing from Arizona State University, and a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology from Santa Clara University.



Hello, everyone! Beth Anstandig is on today's show. Today, we talk about Beth being a Truthteller, her turning point, learning lessons from her mustang, and getting closer to our true selves. Beth also talks about multigenerational learning, living in a space of ease, and her four questions of natural leadership awareness.

Let’s dive in!

In this Episode you’ll learn:

  • [10:42] The Truthteller.
  • [12:50] How does the truthteller affect the family system?
  • [14:29] How Beth got into this work.
  • [17:39] “I need to take care of me.”
  • [25:37] The story of Beth’s mustang.
  • [32:29] Internal relationships and horses.
  • [34:52] The trail will give you what you need.
  • [38:53] Society getting further from our true natural selves.
  • [43:44] Helping others by example.
  • [45:28] The space of ease.
  • [56:34] The four questions of natural leadership awareness.
  • [64:57] Beth’s words of wisdom.



  • “The journey is about learning to cope and not run.” [24:49]
  • “[Horses] tell us the truth about ourselves when we’re still hiding the truth from ourselves.” [33:05]
  • “The thing that we’re drawn to, that we need, is often what others need.” [43:54]
  • “It’s never not scary. It’s just really hard work being a human.” [66:00]


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